Crime To Burn

Episode 72 (Emergency Bonus Episode)
This is not a regular episode.This is a plea for action.
In 2024, Paul Clifford was brutally murdered—his body set on fire in an act of unspeakable violence. Now, the Pima County Attorney’s Office is preparing to offer plea deals that could allow 2 people accused of murdering him to walk with barely a slap on the wrist.
Paul’s wife, Christina Clifford, is speaking out. In this urgent bonus episode, she shares her story—and her outrage. With court decisions looming, she’s asking for your help.
There are only days left to act.Listen now. Share widely. And contact the Pima County prosecutor to demand real justice.
You can call the Pima County attorney at 529-724-5600 or go to their website pcao.pima.gov and click on the “contact us” link at the very bottom of the page for an email from.
You can reach Christina Clifford on TikTok @enchanteddesertessentials
You can also reach out to us at CrimetoBurn@gmail.com and we will do our best to help you reach Christina. 
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Sources:
Personal interview with Christina Clifford (audio recorded for Crime to Burn), July 2025.
Crime to Burn is a production of Crime to Burn, LLC. We light fires in your brain, not your buildings. All rights reserved.

Episode 71
What if the official story is a lie?
In this episode, you’ll hear from someone who was there that night—an employee who worked the wedding reception in the Zebra Room just hours before it ignited. For decades, she stayed silent. But now, she’s ready to talk. And what she has to say could rewrite everything we thought we knew about the fire.
She says the investigators were hiding something.She says this fire wasn’t an accident.And she saw the warning signs with her own eyes.
Part 4 takes you deeper into the chaos of the fire’s spread, the timeline of the flashover, and the failure of exits that left hundreds trapped. But this time, we’re seeing it through the eyes of someone who was inside—and who believes the Beverly Hills Supper Club was built to burn.
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Sources:
Inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire by Ron Elliott – A detailed account of the tragedy, drawing from survivor stories, official records, and historical context to paint a vivid picture of the events leading up to the fire.
The Beverly Hills Supper Club: The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy by Robert D. Webster – A deep investigative dive into the fire, including previously unreleased documents and interviews that challenge the official narrative and explore allegations of corruption and cover-up.
“Tragedy in Kentucky” by Richard L. Best, Fire Journal, Vol. 72, No. 1 (1978), pp. 18–22, 27–35, 41–44.Summary of the official NFPA investigation into the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire, including analysis of code violations, fire development, and survivor accounts.
Personal interview with Shirley Turner (formerly Shirley Baker), who worked at the Beverly Hills Supper Club and was present the night of the fire. Conducted in July 2025.
Crime to Burn is a production of Crime to Burn, LLC. We light fires in your brain, not your buildings. All rights reserved.

Episode 70
As smoke begins to creep into the Cabaret Room, the audience still doesn’t realize the nightmare unfolding just beyond the doors. In this episode, we follow the chilling timeline from the moment busboy Walter Bailey issues his warning—largely ignored—to the split-second decisions that determine who makes it out, and who doesn’t.
We also dive into the club’s architectural failures, the inadequate exits, and the chaotic evacuation as hundreds of patrons tried to flee a room never designed to hold them safely. And as the fire flashes over, we begin peeling back the layers of the investigation—where conflicting reports, jurisdictional tension, and the premature destruction of the scene leave more questions than answers.
Because once again: you can’t claim to search for the truth while bulldozing the crime scene.
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Sources:
Inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire by Ron Elliott – A detailed account of the tragedy, drawing from survivor stories, official records, and historical context to paint a vivid picture of the events leading up to the fire.
The Beverly Hills Supper Club: The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy by Robert D. Webster – A deep investigative dive into the fire, including previously unreleased documents and interviews that challenge the official narrative and explore allegations of corruption and cover-up.
“Tragedy in Kentucky” by Richard L. Best, Fire Journal, Vol. 72, No. 1 (1978), pp. 18–22, 27–35, 41–44.Summary of the official NFPA investigation into the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire, including analysis of code violations, fire development, and survivor accounts.

Episode 69
The Beverly Hills Supper Club wasn’t built to burn—but it sure wasn’t built to last either. In Part 2, we peel back the velvet curtain to reveal a firetrap disguised as Kentucky’s swankiest hotspot: no sprinklers, no fire alarms, a patchwork of unpermitted construction, and enough aluminum wiring to make an electrician weep.
We walk you through the timeline leading up to the fire—starting with strange heat in the Zebra Room during a wedding reception—and follow the flames as they race toward the jam-packed Cabaret Room. Spoiler: it’s worse than you think.
Then we dive into the official version of events. Investigators wrapped things up suspiciously fast, bulldozed the crime scene before outside experts could fully weigh in, and insisted the cause was “clearly electrical.” Mm-hmm. Nothing to see here.
Is it negligence? A cover-up? Or just good old-fashioned incompetence? There's a lot more to this story. 
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Sources:
Inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire by Ron Elliott – A detailed account of the tragedy, drawing from survivor stories, official records, and historical context to paint a vivid picture of the events leading up to the fire.
The Beverly Hills Supper Club: The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy by Robert D. Webster – A deep investigative dive into the fire, including previously unreleased documents and interviews that challenge the official narrative and explore allegations of corruption and cover-up.

Episode 68
On May 28, 1977, the Beverly Hills Supper Club in Southgate, Kentucky went up in flames, claiming the lives of 165 people. The official ruling? Accidental fire. But decades later, that conclusion is still under scrutiny.
In Part 1 of this explosive new series, we begin unraveling the story from the ground up: the layout of the building, the overlooked warnings, and the dangerously overloaded showrooms. As a fire protection engineer, I’ll walk you through the facts—because when a fire moves this fast and takes this many lives, we have to ask: was it really just negligence… or something more?
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Sources:
Inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire by Ron Elliott – A detailed account of the tragedy, drawing from survivor stories, official records, and historical context to paint a vivid picture of the events leading up to the fire.
The Beverly Hills Supper Club: The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy by Robert D. Webster – A deep investigative dive into the fire, including previously unreleased documents and interviews that challenge the official narrative and explore allegations of corruption and cover-up.

Episode 67
In 1989, a fire at a religious camp in Pennsylvania claimed the life of 20-year-old Ji Yun Lee. Her father, Han Tak Lee, a Korean immigrant with no criminal record, was swiftly arrested, tried, and sentenced to life in prison. But what seemed like a clear-cut arson case quickly unraveled into a cautionary tale of flawed fire science, cultural bias, and the dangers of rushing to judgment.
In this episode, we examine how prosecutors built a case on burn patterns and cultural ignorance—and how modern fire investigation and one relentless expert helped expose the truth. Han Tak Lee spent 24 years behind bars for a crime that science would later prove never happened.
This is the story of how culture was put on trial—and how justice failed.
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Sources:
From Magic to Law: The Han Tak Lee Case and Arson Investigation — National Association for Public Defensehttps://publicdefenders.us/blogs/from-magic-to-law-the-han-tak-lee-case-and-arson-investigation
Locked Away for 24 Years, Han Tak Lee Still Feels Imprisoned — The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/nyregion/locked-away-for-24-years-han-tak-lee-still-feels-imprisoned.html
Han Tak Lee v. Houtzdale — U.S. Court of Appeals, Third Circuit (2015)https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-3rd-circuit/1710954.html
Old Arson-Murder Rap Tossed, Man is Set Free— USA Todayhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/22/arson-murder-han-tak-lee/14451491/
Kim Honors Han Tak Lee with Legislation — Queens Chroniclehttps://www.qchron.com/editions/north/kim-honors-han-tak-lee-with-legislation/article_ddc61e5b-e920-5ac7-a1e9-18955a35763f.html
Han Tak Lee Case Overview — International Network for Innocent Arson Defendantshttps://www.niad.info/Han_Tak_Lee.html
Han Tak Lee — Pennsylvania Innocence Projecthttps://painnocence.org/hantaklee
A Calculated Arson: The Han Tak Lee Case — John J. Lentinihttps://www.academia.edu/38962288/A_Calculated_Arson_The_Han_Tak_Lee_case_John_Lentini
Author Blurb for Upcoming Book on Han Tak Lee — David DeKokhttps://daviddekok.com

Episode 66
The story of the Lords of Chaos comes to a close in this final installment. After the murder of Mark Schwebes, the cracks begin to show. Confessions spill. Arrests are made. And the twisted empire Kevin Foster built starts to collapse under the weight of its own violence and paranoia.
In this episode, we follow the unraveling—how a confession born of manipulation ultimately led to the group’s downfall, how law enforcement closed in, and how the trials exposed the devastating consequences of ego, fear, and blind loyalty. We also explore what happened after the headlines faded. Just when you think the case is wrapped up, an entirely new bombshell drops as Kevin Foster's influence and crime spree continues even in his post-conviction era.
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Source List: My primary source for this episode was the Book Someone Has to Die Tonight by Jim Greenhill. You can find it on amazon here: https://a.co/d/hwh75F1
Please see Episode 64 show notes for complete sources list for this series. 

Episode 65
In Part 2, the Lords of Chaos escalate from chaos to carnage. What began as vandalism and firebombs takes a darker turn when Kevin Foster declares war—not just on authority, but on anyone who stands in his way. As their plans spiral, the group bombs a Coca-Cola plant and stalks their high school band director, Mark Schwebes, ultimately ambushing him at his front door. In this episode, we unravel the events that led to Schwebes’ murder, the manipulation tactics Kevin used to turn fear into compliance, and the unraveling of group loyalty as reality sets in. It’s the point of no return—and the fire has only just begun.
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Source List: My primary source for this episode was the Book Someone Has to Die Tonight by Jim Greenhill. You can find it on amazon here: https://a.co/d/hwh75F1
Please see Episode 64 show notes for complete sources list for this series. 

Episode 64
Obedience to Ashes, Part 1It started with friendship.With a promise of belonging.With a charismatic—yet deeply flawed—leader.But beneath the surface of this group of misfit boys, something much darker was brewing.
In Part 1 of this series, we examine how Kevin Foster recruited the teens who would become his self-proclaimed militia: the Lords of Chaos. We explore how this band of rebels ended up on the wrong side of the razor-thin wire separating camaraderie from cult.
A warped ideology, a hierarchy built on fear, and a toxic need for power would drag them all toward tragedy. From theft to arson—and eventually murder—this group of boys became victims of manipulation, groupthink, and radicalization.
On Crime to Burn, we explore how it happened—and why it matters.
This episode is dedicated to the memory of Herbert (Herb) Roberson, Retired Lieutenant of Asheville City Fire Department, Upper Hominy Fire Department, Enka-Candler Fire and Rescue Squad, and Buncombe County Rescue Squad.
We extend our deepest condolences to his family, friends, and his fire department and rescue squad brothers and sisters. His service and dedication will not be forgotten.
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Source List: My primary source for this episode was the Book Someone Has to Die Tonight by Jim Greenhill. You can find it on amazon here: https://a.co/d/hwh75F1
Greenhill, Jim. Someone Has To Die Tonight. Pinnacle Books (Kensington Publishing Corp.), 2006. 448 pages.
Morrison, Keith. NBC News. “Young Lords of Chaos.”🔗 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15990418
UPI Archives. “Killer’s Mom Held Without Bond.” July 22, 2000.🔗 https://www.upi.com/Archives/2000/07/22/Killers-mom-held-without-bond/7572964238400/
Wikipedia. “Lords of Chaos (criminal group).”🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_(criminal_group)
Cifatte, Chris. WINK News. “Lords of Chaos Conspirator to be Released from Prison on Saturday.”🔗 https://www.winknews.com/news/lee/lords-of-chaos-conspirator-to-be-released-from-prison-on-saturday/article_1769be97-dcf7-552b-8f08-fe90238ee611.html
News-Press. “Photos: The Lords of Chaos – A Look Back.” January 30, 2018.🔗 https://www.news-press.com/picture-gallery/news/crime/2018/01/30/photos-the-lords-of-chaos---a-look-back/109936410/
Cape Coral Breeze. “Appeal Denied for Kevin Foster, Convicted in Lords of Chaos Case.” November 1, 2023.🔗 https://www.capecoralbreeze.com/news/local-news/2023/11/01/appeal-denied-for-kevin-foster-convicted-in-lords-of-chaos-case/

Episode 63
The Pants, the Plot, and the Pickle Rain: Sodium Chlorate's Wild Ride
This week on Crime to Burn, we celebrate our one-year podiversary with an explosive tale—literally. From flaming trousers and banned weedkillers to accidental city-shaking disasters caused by petty crime, we trace the chaotic path of sodium chlorate: the chemical that just couldn’t stop stealing the spotlight.
We cover:
The fiery fashion faux pas that haunted New Zealand farmers
The whiskey heist that accidentally leveled part of Vancouver
The bad-boy redemption arc that now has it saving lives at 30,000 feet
Join us as we salute one of chemistry’s most chaotic compounds—and raise a toast (not a match) to one year of fire, crime, and chemically-assisted absurdity.
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Source List:
Watson, James. The Significance of Mr. Richard Buckley’s Exploding Trousers: Reflections on an Aspect of Technological Change in New Zealand Dairy Farming between the World Wars. Agricultural History, Vol. 78, No. 3 (Summer 2004).
ChemistryViews. Chlorates: Tragic Incidents and Life-Saving Applications – Parts 1, 2, and 3. June 7, 2022. https://www.chemistryviews.org/chlorates-tragic-incidents-and-life-saving-applications-part-1/
Who Was the Unabomber? The Real Story of What Ted Kaczynski Kept in his Cabon. Newsweek. July 31, 2017. https://www.newsweek.com/ted-kaczynski-manhunt-unabomber-644260
Leader (Orange, NSW). "The Danger of Celluloid Collars." August 24, 1912, p. 8. Retrieved from Trove. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117803078
USDA National Organic Standards Board. Sodium Chlorate: Technical Advisory Panel Report. 2000. https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/SodiumChlorateTAP1100.pdf
Smith, Helena. "Greek Letter Bomb Attack Put Europe on High Alert." The Guardian, November 2, 2010. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/02/greek-mail-bomb-attacks-athens
Hawthorn, Tom. "Vancouver’s Own Port Explosion Was Fuelled by Sodium Chlorate and Whiskey." The Tyee. August 7, 2020. https://thetyee.ca/News/2020/08/07/Vancouver-Port-Explosion-Fueled-By-Sodium-Chlorate-Whiskey/
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Reregistration Eligibility Decision (RED) Fact Sheet for Sodium Chlorate. February 2008. https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/reregistration/fs_G-94_1-Feb-08.pdf
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Homemade Chemical Bomb Events and Resulting Injuries — Selected States, January 1996 – March 2003. MMWR Weekly, July 18, 2003. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5228a3.htm
Wikipedia contributors. 2008 Exeter attempted bombing. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Exeter_attempted_bombing