Crime To Burn

Episode 69
The Beverly Hills Supper Club wasn’t built to burn—but it sure wasn’t built to last either. In Part 2, we peel back the velvet curtain to reveal a firetrap disguised as Kentucky’s swankiest hotspot: no sprinklers, no fire alarms, a patchwork of unpermitted construction, and enough aluminum wiring to make an electrician weep.
We walk you through the timeline leading up to the fire—starting with strange heat in the Zebra Room during a wedding reception—and follow the flames as they race toward the jam-packed Cabaret Room. Spoiler: it’s worse than you think.
Then we dive into the official version of events. Investigators wrapped things up suspiciously fast, bulldozed the crime scene before outside experts could fully weigh in, and insisted the cause was “clearly electrical.” Mm-hmm. Nothing to see here.
Is it negligence? A cover-up? Or just good old-fashioned incompetence? There's a lot more to this story. 
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Sources:
Inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire by Ron Elliott – A detailed account of the tragedy, drawing from survivor stories, official records, and historical context to paint a vivid picture of the events leading up to the fire.
The Beverly Hills Supper Club: The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy by Robert D. Webster – A deep investigative dive into the fire, including previously unreleased documents and interviews that challenge the official narrative and explore allegations of corruption and cover-up.

Episode 68
On May 28, 1977, the Beverly Hills Supper Club in Southgate, Kentucky went up in flames, claiming the lives of 165 people. The official ruling? Accidental fire. But decades later, that conclusion is still under scrutiny.
In Part 1 of this explosive new series, we begin unraveling the story from the ground up: the layout of the building, the overlooked warnings, and the dangerously overloaded showrooms. As a fire protection engineer, I’ll walk you through the facts—because when a fire moves this fast and takes this many lives, we have to ask: was it really just negligence… or something more?
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Sources:
Inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire by Ron Elliott – A detailed account of the tragedy, drawing from survivor stories, official records, and historical context to paint a vivid picture of the events leading up to the fire.
The Beverly Hills Supper Club: The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy by Robert D. Webster – A deep investigative dive into the fire, including previously unreleased documents and interviews that challenge the official narrative and explore allegations of corruption and cover-up.

Episode 67
In 1989, a fire at a religious camp in Pennsylvania claimed the life of 20-year-old Ji Yun Lee. Her father, Han Tak Lee, a Korean immigrant with no criminal record, was swiftly arrested, tried, and sentenced to life in prison. But what seemed like a clear-cut arson case quickly unraveled into a cautionary tale of flawed fire science, cultural bias, and the dangers of rushing to judgment.
In this episode, we examine how prosecutors built a case on burn patterns and cultural ignorance—and how modern fire investigation and one relentless expert helped expose the truth. Han Tak Lee spent 24 years behind bars for a crime that science would later prove never happened.
This is the story of how culture was put on trial—and how justice failed.
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Sources:
From Magic to Law: The Han Tak Lee Case and Arson Investigation — National Association for Public Defensehttps://publicdefenders.us/blogs/from-magic-to-law-the-han-tak-lee-case-and-arson-investigation
Locked Away for 24 Years, Han Tak Lee Still Feels Imprisoned — The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/nyregion/locked-away-for-24-years-han-tak-lee-still-feels-imprisoned.html
Han Tak Lee v. Houtzdale — U.S. Court of Appeals, Third Circuit (2015)https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-3rd-circuit/1710954.html
Old Arson-Murder Rap Tossed, Man is Set Free— USA Todayhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/22/arson-murder-han-tak-lee/14451491/
Kim Honors Han Tak Lee with Legislation — Queens Chroniclehttps://www.qchron.com/editions/north/kim-honors-han-tak-lee-with-legislation/article_ddc61e5b-e920-5ac7-a1e9-18955a35763f.html
Han Tak Lee Case Overview — International Network for Innocent Arson Defendantshttps://www.niad.info/Han_Tak_Lee.html
Han Tak Lee — Pennsylvania Innocence Projecthttps://painnocence.org/hantaklee
A Calculated Arson: The Han Tak Lee Case — John J. Lentinihttps://www.academia.edu/38962288/A_Calculated_Arson_The_Han_Tak_Lee_case_John_Lentini
Author Blurb for Upcoming Book on Han Tak Lee — David DeKokhttps://daviddekok.com

Episode 66
The story of the Lords of Chaos comes to a close in this final installment. After the murder of Mark Schwebes, the cracks begin to show. Confessions spill. Arrests are made. And the twisted empire Kevin Foster built starts to collapse under the weight of its own violence and paranoia.
In this episode, we follow the unraveling—how a confession born of manipulation ultimately led to the group’s downfall, how law enforcement closed in, and how the trials exposed the devastating consequences of ego, fear, and blind loyalty. We also explore what happened after the headlines faded. Just when you think the case is wrapped up, an entirely new bombshell drops as Kevin Foster's influence and crime spree continues even in his post-conviction era.
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Source List: My primary source for this episode was the Book Someone Has to Die Tonight by Jim Greenhill. You can find it on amazon here: https://a.co/d/hwh75F1
Please see Episode 64 show notes for complete sources list for this series. 

Episode 65
In Part 2, the Lords of Chaos escalate from chaos to carnage. What began as vandalism and firebombs takes a darker turn when Kevin Foster declares war—not just on authority, but on anyone who stands in his way. As their plans spiral, the group bombs a Coca-Cola plant and stalks their high school band director, Mark Schwebes, ultimately ambushing him at his front door. In this episode, we unravel the events that led to Schwebes’ murder, the manipulation tactics Kevin used to turn fear into compliance, and the unraveling of group loyalty as reality sets in. It’s the point of no return—and the fire has only just begun.
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Source List: My primary source for this episode was the Book Someone Has to Die Tonight by Jim Greenhill. You can find it on amazon here: https://a.co/d/hwh75F1
Please see Episode 64 show notes for complete sources list for this series. 

Episode 64
Obedience to Ashes, Part 1It started with friendship.With a promise of belonging.With a charismatic—yet deeply flawed—leader.But beneath the surface of this group of misfit boys, something much darker was brewing.
In Part 1 of this series, we examine how Kevin Foster recruited the teens who would become his self-proclaimed militia: the Lords of Chaos. We explore how this band of rebels ended up on the wrong side of the razor-thin wire separating camaraderie from cult.
A warped ideology, a hierarchy built on fear, and a toxic need for power would drag them all toward tragedy. From theft to arson—and eventually murder—this group of boys became victims of manipulation, groupthink, and radicalization.
On Crime to Burn, we explore how it happened—and why it matters.
This episode is dedicated to the memory of Herbert (Herb) Roberson, Retired Lieutenant of Asheville City Fire Department, Upper Hominy Fire Department, Enka-Candler Fire and Rescue Squad, and Buncombe County Rescue Squad.
We extend our deepest condolences to his family, friends, and his fire department and rescue squad brothers and sisters. His service and dedication will not be forgotten.
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Source List: My primary source for this episode was the Book Someone Has to Die Tonight by Jim Greenhill. You can find it on amazon here: https://a.co/d/hwh75F1
Greenhill, Jim. Someone Has To Die Tonight. Pinnacle Books (Kensington Publishing Corp.), 2006. 448 pages.
Morrison, Keith. NBC News. “Young Lords of Chaos.”🔗 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15990418
UPI Archives. “Killer’s Mom Held Without Bond.” July 22, 2000.🔗 https://www.upi.com/Archives/2000/07/22/Killers-mom-held-without-bond/7572964238400/
Wikipedia. “Lords of Chaos (criminal group).”🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_(criminal_group)
Cifatte, Chris. WINK News. “Lords of Chaos Conspirator to be Released from Prison on Saturday.”🔗 https://www.winknews.com/news/lee/lords-of-chaos-conspirator-to-be-released-from-prison-on-saturday/article_1769be97-dcf7-552b-8f08-fe90238ee611.html
News-Press. “Photos: The Lords of Chaos – A Look Back.” January 30, 2018.🔗 https://www.news-press.com/picture-gallery/news/crime/2018/01/30/photos-the-lords-of-chaos---a-look-back/109936410/
Cape Coral Breeze. “Appeal Denied for Kevin Foster, Convicted in Lords of Chaos Case.” November 1, 2023.🔗 https://www.capecoralbreeze.com/news/local-news/2023/11/01/appeal-denied-for-kevin-foster-convicted-in-lords-of-chaos-case/

Episode 63
The Pants, the Plot, and the Pickle Rain: Sodium Chlorate's Wild Ride
This week on Crime to Burn, we celebrate our one-year podiversary with an explosive tale—literally. From flaming trousers and banned weedkillers to accidental city-shaking disasters caused by petty crime, we trace the chaotic path of sodium chlorate: the chemical that just couldn’t stop stealing the spotlight.
We cover:
The fiery fashion faux pas that haunted New Zealand farmers
The whiskey heist that accidentally leveled part of Vancouver
The bad-boy redemption arc that now has it saving lives at 30,000 feet
Join us as we salute one of chemistry’s most chaotic compounds—and raise a toast (not a match) to one year of fire, crime, and chemically-assisted absurdity.
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Source List:
Watson, James. The Significance of Mr. Richard Buckley’s Exploding Trousers: Reflections on an Aspect of Technological Change in New Zealand Dairy Farming between the World Wars. Agricultural History, Vol. 78, No. 3 (Summer 2004).
ChemistryViews. Chlorates: Tragic Incidents and Life-Saving Applications – Parts 1, 2, and 3. June 7, 2022. https://www.chemistryviews.org/chlorates-tragic-incidents-and-life-saving-applications-part-1/
Who Was the Unabomber? The Real Story of What Ted Kaczynski Kept in his Cabon. Newsweek. July 31, 2017. https://www.newsweek.com/ted-kaczynski-manhunt-unabomber-644260
Leader (Orange, NSW). "The Danger of Celluloid Collars." August 24, 1912, p. 8. Retrieved from Trove. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117803078
USDA National Organic Standards Board. Sodium Chlorate: Technical Advisory Panel Report. 2000. https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/SodiumChlorateTAP1100.pdf
Smith, Helena. "Greek Letter Bomb Attack Put Europe on High Alert." The Guardian, November 2, 2010. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/02/greek-mail-bomb-attacks-athens
Hawthorn, Tom. "Vancouver’s Own Port Explosion Was Fuelled by Sodium Chlorate and Whiskey." The Tyee. August 7, 2020. https://thetyee.ca/News/2020/08/07/Vancouver-Port-Explosion-Fueled-By-Sodium-Chlorate-Whiskey/
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Reregistration Eligibility Decision (RED) Fact Sheet for Sodium Chlorate. February 2008. https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/reregistration/fs_G-94_1-Feb-08.pdf
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Homemade Chemical Bomb Events and Resulting Injuries — Selected States, January 1996 – March 2003. MMWR Weekly, July 18, 2003. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5228a3.htm
Wikipedia contributors. 2008 Exeter attempted bombing. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Exeter_attempted_bombing

Episode 62
The Finale.
For over two decades, Lorene Bible has chased whispers through rural Oklahoma—across backroads, into burned-out houses, and deep into the shadows of fear and corruption. In this final chapter, we follow her relentless pursuit as it collides with rumors of meth, murder, and men who believed themselves untouchable.
We’ll trace the steps of private investigators blocked by politics, uncover the objects that linked killers to the crime, and examine how a mother—just a mother—did what no law enforcement agency would: she kept going.
This is the conclusion of our three-part series on the disappearance of Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible. The fire was only the beginning.
If you have information that can help the families locate the remains of Lauria Bible or Ashley Freeman, please reach out on the facebook page run by the Bible Family, Find Lauria Bible BBI: https://www.facebook.com/p/Find-Lauria-Bible-BBI-100064440802321/  You can also email findlauriabible@yahoo.com or call (918) 244-3625. 
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Source List:
Please see source list for Episode 60. In addition, Sirens, A Southern True Crime Podcast hosted by investigative journalist and victim advocate, Raven Rollins did a deep dive into this case including interviews with author Jax Miller and Lauria Bible's mother Lorene Bible. I highly recommend their coverage for additional information on the case. Raven's coverage and interviews are also used as source material for this episode.
Our primary source for this case remains the book Hell in the Heartland by Jax Miller which you can find on Amazon here. 
Additional sources used for this episode: 
Oklahoma House of Representatives – Coverage of Lauria and Ashley’s Law, including legislative progression and final passage
KJRH News – Report on Governor Kevin Stitt signing Lauria and Ashley’s Law into effect
KSWO News – Details on the law’s provisions and its scheduled effective date of November 1, 2025
News 9 – Coverage of the law’s requirements, with statements from Lorene Bible and law enforcement officials
KOCO News – Overview of the bill’s signing and related legislative actions
Video Coverage from KOCO (YouTube):
Lauria and Ashley’s Law Signed by Governor
Lauria and Ashley’s Law Passes Oklahoma Senate
Lauria and Ashley’s Law Passes House

Episode 61
Whispers. The town of Welch, Oklahoma was full of whispers after the bodies of Danny and Kathy Freeman were located in the burned out Freeman home. Whispers about drugs, wrongful deaths, police involvement, intentionally botched investigations, and whispers about where the girls were and who had taken them. The whispers swirled around allegations related to Shane Freeman's death after a Craig County Sheriff's Deputy shot him on a rural Oklahoma road nearly a year before. The whispers discussed accusations of drug debts and methamphetamine rings. The whispers built theories. And some of the whispers would eventually harden into statements, allegations, and testimony but it would take years, decades even. In this episode of Crime to Burn, we take you through the whispers and the theories swirling around the Freeman's deaths and the disappearances of Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman in the early days of the investigation because whispers can spread through a community like wildfire, and the Bible family was willing to consider every whisper in their relentless search for their missing daughter. 
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Source List:
Please see source list for Episode 60. In addition, Sirens, A Southern True Crime Podcast hosted by investigative journalist and victim advocate, Raven Rollins did a deep dive into this case including interviews with author Jax Miller and Lauria Bible's mother Lorene Bible. I highly recommend their coverage for additional information on the case. Raven's coverage and interviews are also used as source material for this episode.
Our primary source for this case remains the book Hell in the Heartland by Jax Miller which you can find on Amazon here. 

Episode 60
In the early hours of December 30, 1999, a mobile home in Welch, Oklahoma went up in flames. Inside, the bodies of Kathy and Danny Freeman were discovered—but their daughter Ashley and her best friend Lauria Bible were gone. In this episode, we unravel the tangled first 24 hours of the case that would come to haunt two families and an entire community. From missing evidence to missteps in the fire investigation, we explore how two teenage girls vanished into the smoke—and why it took nearly two decades for answers to emerge.
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Source List:
KJRH Tulsa. 25 years: Mother, community mark anniversary of Bible, Freeman disappearance. January 2, 2024. People.com
KJRH Tulsa. Oklahoma's Cold Case Files: Lauria Bible & Ashley Freeman. May 8, 2025.
People Magazine. Polaroids Prompt Arrest in 1999 Disappearance of 2 Oklahoma Teens.
People Magazine. How an Overlooked Clue Cracked Open 1999 Murder Case More than a Decade After Teen Girls Were Killed. June 7, 2021. People.com
Miller, Jax. Hell in the Heartland: Murder, Meth, and the Case of Two Missing Girls. Berkley Books, 2020.